For some reason, urban violence has been OFF the radar. Now, the violence I'm talking about has graduated to hate crimes in some areas, making it that much more significant. Point is, we've got issues with a Los Angeles-based gang called Florencia 13 that's been terrorizing and killing blacks to claim turf for themselves.
Black Voices posted this AP article about L.A. gang violence at the end of December.
So then, while you've got brothers being victimized in their own neighborhoods by a bunch of thugs who think they are Klan members, where is the political rhetoric on protecting people from this phenomenon that, as it turns out, is not so new?
The Southern Poverty Law Center recently published this excellent report detailing the crime wave, and tracing it back to its source: the Mexican Mafia, a prison-based gang that stretches back more than 50 years. The real kicker is that while the number of Los Angeles gang-killings have plummetted, black folk now have to worry about other people of color blasting on them.
The F13s even had the nerve to post a YouTube video about themselves. Maybe it would tell people how to recognize them, maybe it would provide some understanding of who they are. It's well produced, too, but punks like that get no free promos here.
F the F13. I'm not anti-Mexican, or anti-anything else, but I am most certainly Pro-Black.
Maybe it's a by-product of blacks beginning to change their living standards in Los Angeles and in other places, reverting from the thug life and embracing free market economic progress, while groups of immigrants come in and where impoverished will join a gang or crime organization to enjoy the strength in their numbers. It is almost certainly an issue of demographics where black populations are dwindling in some areas and populations of Latinos increasing.
Again, the phenomenon is not new. This has been going on with gangbangers since the 1700s. But it's time to push back, baby. Just as in the Civil Rights days, black folk have the right to protect themselves from any racial intrusions and that message should hit home with Gov. Arnold Schwazenegger, Mayor Antonio Villagarosa, and L.A. County Sheriff Lee Baca. It didn't take much to spark the L.A. riot of 1992.
How do we prevent this? Community leaders from gang interventionists to grassroots organizers from both communities should come together to ward off further violence rather than waiting until another black youth is killed or a group of brothers decides to retaliate against the Mexicans.
So, I think while we get excited over presidential candidates calling themselves "agents of change" we need to hold their feet to the fire on one of the most significant problems in the street violence category: hate crimes, especially those committed by immigrant gangs against our people. For real, we've got enough problems with us killing us. We don't need anyone else to help us.


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By: ED on 2/18/2008 2:53PM
MEXICANS REPRESENT RACIAL INTRUSION? THIS IS INTERESTING. AND DON'T PUT TO MUCH STOCK IN ANYTHING YOU HEAR FROM THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER. I HAVE A CELTIC CROSS TATTOO ON MY UPPER ARM BECAUSE I AM IRISH CATHOLIC. IMAGINE HOW SHOCKED I WAS TO READ AN SPLC ARTICLE LETTING ME KNOW I HAD AN ARYAN BROTHERHOOD TATTOO. THAT ORGANIZATION IS TOTAL BS. AND PLEASE STOP THREATENING TO RIOT, WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT?
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By: BIG CASPER SOUTH SIDE FLORENCE NEIGHBORHOOD on 2/25/2008 4:08PM
Let me Start off by stating that we are not racist but proud of who we are and where were from.
We have a few "Quote on Quote" Black members in our organization who are true to being where there from and what they stand for.
It just so happens that one of our biggest rivals happens to be a black gang and had nothing to do with color, but the fact of power in the neighborhood.
They sell drugs, fight for turf and are taught to fight against other races in prison. We should be segregated from each other if we can not see eye to eye in living conditions.
It's the Government that keeps us together to stir up chaos in the system in order to make sure that their correctional officers have their job security. The more problems in the systems the more need for funds to run a facility. That's just one of the problems.
Mainly I just wanted to say was F you people who stir up false accusations against our organization. It's simply a drug war not racism.
Shot out to all those FLORENCIANO'S and FLORENCIANA'S that had to get caught up in political bullshit that they have accused us of.
F's UP HOMIES
BIG CASPER SOUTH SIDE FLORENCE GANG...........
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By: El Jibaro De Lytle Creek on 2/18/2008 8:59PM
If you will allow me one interjection. In the Race topic: Like a highly polished Diamond edge cuts through everything separating it into 2. So Racism, is just like the hardened diamond edge, needed to separate the brotherhood of mankind's common bond.
Everything else is just business. Legal illegal, same thing just business!
El Jibaro De Lytle Creek
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By: Tired of poor me attitude on 2/19/2008 8:29AM
Deport anyone with a criminal record. Don't let them Bail out. F13 criminals need to be rounded up, put through court, serve a sentence and then deported back to that sh-t hole named Mexico.
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By: madam on 2/19/2008 10:16AM
I'm glad that black folks are starting to speak up on this issue because their leadership is trying to sweep all this under the rug in the quest for the "mythical" Latino vote (and denying the diversity of political opinion and thought of the so-called "Latino vote"). I'm an American, I was raised by my immigrant Latino parents to respect the rules, laws, customs and traditions of this great nation and to expect everyone else to do the same no matter their country of origin, race, etc. I am offended by the likes of the National Council of La RAZA who have self-proclaimed themselves the spokespersons for all Latinos in this nation and have aggressively pushed, lobbied and used economic and "political" extortion to push their pro-Mexican, pro-illegal immigration, open borders agenda on our government and our people to the detriment of all law-abiding citizens and our communities. I for one think it is immoral that anyone should hire illegal alien labor when there are millions of unemployed and underemployed Americans of all colors,creeds, ethnicities etc. who are looking to find their American DREAM.
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By: legalatina on 2/19/2008 12:36PM
Please see this very powerful ad regarding loss of jobs for Black Americans due to illegal immigration..... and pass it on...ask "leadership" to address this situation publicly...why are they afraid to do so?
http://www.cbs46.com/news/15335234/detail.html
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By: legalatina on 2/19/2008 10:14AM
The National Council of LA RAZA recently decried so-called "hate speech" against Mexicans in the U.S. but they completely deny the documented violent, racist, hate-crimes against Black Americans at the hands of violent, Mexican gangs in Los Angeles, San Fransisco, Texas. Presidential contenders refuse to address the issue and instead have been too busy pandering to the mythical "Latino" votes .....that is really sad.
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By: legalatina on 2/19/2008 10:17AM
Report suspected illegal aliens, their employers and/or any suspicious immigration activity directly to Immigration Customs and Enforcement at 1-866-DHS-2ICE (reports can be given anonymously). Save your community, your jobs and our country.
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By: Ransom on 2/19/2008 12:53PM
The problem is Black Leadership. The Black politicians are more loyal to the Democrats than to their own constituencies and the Democratic see illegal aliens as a way to get more votes. It is interesting to see all the Blacks in Jenna where an injustice occurred. However, here in Los Angeles where Mexicans murder blacks and perform ethnic cleansing, Sharpton, Jackson, and other of that ilk are nowhere to be found. No marches, no fiery speeches, and no demonstrations. In other words, it is okay for the Mexicans to kill Blacks, just don’t over-prosecute us.
Black people help build this country and fought in every war starting with the Revolutionary War. That the Black politician overtly or covertly supports illegal immigration is despicable and shows how much they are out of touch with their constituents. Polls after poll show that Blacks are more against illegal immigrations than whites. They fail to recognize that while the typical illegal come here to work, the Mexican government see illegals as a means of solving their economic woes and the Mexican-American elite sees illegal immigration as an opportunity to gain political power in this country. For example, at an education conference in Sacramento, one attendee was overheard proudly proclaiming that “we have already taken over California.”
He is right. The first step of the first Mexican-American head of the LA City Council was an attempt to deny power to the Black council members. In Lynwood Ca, when they gained the voting majority, the LA times reported that the Mexican pols in Lynwood went from house to house telling their people that they must get rid of the black mayor and city council. The blacks were voted out and the black city workers were fired. The study by the LA County Board of Supervisors found that that the county spends a billion dollars a year on illegal aliens and that does not include education costs. Yet, the liberal dominated county board including a Black lady and Brown lady does nothing about it. They just raise my property taxes.
Finally, it is pure stupidity when black politicians and others blacks fail to recognize that when Mexicans gain power through sheer will of illegal immigration, comprehensive immigration reform, and/or soaring birthrates, the black population will be marginalized like they are in the rest of the Latino world including Miami. There are Blacks all over the Latino World but they are economically and politically invisible, except in Venezuela where Hugo Chavez is Afro-Indian. They also fail to understand that when 12 million people illegally enter the territory of another country solely for economic opportunity, waving the flags of their mother country, espousing LA Raza, speaking their language and maintaining their culture represents an invasion and colonization. There is no news of any famines, major violence or extreme terrorism, or catastrophes that would cause people not to fight to change things in their country as we did in this country.
The Democrats engage in what I call liberal racism. That is favoring one minority over another, in this case, Hispanics over Black. For example, ACLU has no interest in Black Issues. Where were the liberals, democrats and the ACLU when blacks are profiled? Why are they advocating for illegal aliens when those 20% of construction jobs that currently held by illegal could go to blacks or whites. Are construction jobs, jobs that people do not want? Just wait until they start handing out driver’s licenses, and see the transport jobs disappear.
Where is the level playing field? Business can pay much lower wages, disregard health and safety issues, and often not pay unemployment and workers compensation insurance. This is a capitalist system and the cost benefits to the employer are tremendous. We have situations where the high paying software jobs and back-office jobs are going to India or Indian programmers are able to work over here under the H-1B programs. We send manufacturing work to China thus decreasing the availability of manufacturing jobs. Now they want to legalize the people who will perform the remaining manual labor and service jobs so that they can undercut more Americans. Plus we have to pay costs of taking care of them.
Admittedly I am a nativist. I believe that because we fought for this country and fought for our civil rights, I refuse to sent to the back of the bus by illegal immigrants and their liberal elite supporters. For what, “for people to have a better life or because they just want to work”. As if we do not have Black Folk who just want a better life or just want to work. Don’t kid yourself that these are just low-skilled jobs. Look around you. My cable installer came to my house to fix a problem and he could barely speak a word of English.
The point is that the Black communities as others have made a tremendous investment in this country. During our dreadful days of social and economic apartheid, there was no mass immigration of Blacks to Mexico. Mexico would not allow it in the first place. Benefits should go to those who have shouldered the burden and not to those who cross our borders and attempt to use our resources to displace us. These people want to go to the front of the line and have paid no dues. When John McCain, Hillary, or Obama give the Illegals amnesty does he expect the new citizens of military age to enlist? Many would return home. With dual citizenship, many could just slip back across the border. People are reluctant to go to war unless motivated by love of country. However, my grandchildren do not have that option. As American citizens, we obligated to make the ultimate sacrifice for this country and that should count for something.
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