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The reviews are in: John McCain won the non-debate at Pastor Rick Warren's Saddleback Civil Forum. McCain was "on his game." While Barack Obama was "thoughtful," the consensus is that he failed to connect with white evangelicals.Obama's backers find it hard to accept that their man, whom House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called "a leader that God has blessed us with at this time," was eclipsed by old-man McCain. So, some have accused McCain of cheating and breaching the "cone of silence."
The cheating allegation gained traction after NBC chief correspondent Andrea Mitchell opined on "Meet the Press":
The Obama people must feel that he didn't do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context, because what they're putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama. He seemed so well-prepared.McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, called out Mitchell. He fired off a letter to NBC News President Steve Capus requesting a meeting to discuss their concerns about media bias:
We are extremely disappointed to see that the level of objectivity at NBC News has fallen so low that reporters are now giving voice to unsubstantiated, partisan claims in order to undercut John McCain...McCain's account was corroborated by Pastor Warren who told Fox News' Sean Hannity:
This is irresponsible journalism and sadly, indicative of the level of objectivity we have witnessed at NBC News this election cycle. Instead of examining the Obama campaign's spin for truth before reporting it to more than 3 million NBC News viewers, Andrea Mitchell simply passed along Obama campaign conspiracy theories. The fact is that during Senator Obama's segment at Saddleback last night, Senator McCain was in a motorcade to the event and then held in a green room with no broadcast feed. In the forum, John McCain clearly demonstrated to the American people that he is prepared to be our next President.
It's a totally bogus issue. It's challenging the integrity of the Secret Service, my security and John McCain...There's no way John McCain could have heard the questions.Score one for the "wrinkly white-haired guy."
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By: WENDY on 8/19/2008 10:02AM
I watched the Saddleback interview, and I thought McCain did awful! He was too quick to give answers without thought. He claimed that he wanted to "defeat" evil, but only considered war as a weapon. Kind of strange to promote war when Christians are supposedly to be 'peacemakers'.
Then McCain went on-and-on about getting Osama if it took the rest of his life. Yet, McCain doesn't tell the audience that it's costing money (billions every month) to continue the hunt for Osama. And McCain isn't the one risking his life. The soliders are the ones!
Big talk with no substance! Another case of old men starting wars and young men having to fight them.
McCain only said what he thought Christian Americans wanted to hear. Unfortunately, people believe "strength" is demonstrated by talking tough. There is a thing called quiet strength. A person that promotes war, war, war isn't demonstrating strength, but FEAR.
And when they asked McCain what was his greatest moral failure, he claimed his first marriage. Oddly, he didn't say fighting against making MLK's birthday a holiday. Notice, he didn't say HE was the failure--after all, he had been seeing Cindy while in was in the process of divorcing from his first wife. He acted as if his first marriage failed due to irreconcilable differences or something.
When asked about rewarding teachers, he went on and on about vouchers, private schools and things of that nature, NEVER really answering the question if certain teachers should be rewarded. He laughed and played-up to crowd during the entire airing.
When Warren asked McCain about raising taxes on the rich, he didn't give an answer. He claimed that he didn't want to tax anyone. Well, hardly a positive remark. Someone has to pay! Notice, he didn't "WANT" to tax, is not the same as not going to tax!
If you vote McCain, you'd better be ready to reinstate the draft! Continue to pay billions each month for a war that shouldn't have been waged from the start and watch the economy crumble like a stale cookie.
McCain is a double-talker, and the following video is excellent proof:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html
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By: GG on 8/19/2008 10:17AM
McCain looked more presidential IMO from observing the questioning. There is no denying this to myself, although I like Obama, the older guy was definitely on his game, for his answers were more directive and concise.
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By: WENDY on 8/19/2008 10:37AM
2. McCain looked more presidential IMO from observing the questioning. There is no denying this to myself, although I like Obama, the older guy was definitely on his game, for his answers were more directive and concise.
GG
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What does looking "presidential" have to do with the war in Iraq, the sinking economy, the high gas and food prices? Looking Presidential doesn't bring in jobs, nor does it put food on the table.
Please, demonstrate how McCain's answers were more "directive and concise"? Firing off answers without thought isn't conciseness, it's called being adamant! It's called SUBTERFUGE. It's a tactic used when one hasn't a clue.
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By: WENDY on 8/19/2008 10:40AM
2. McCain looked more presidential IMO from observing the questioning. There is no denying this to myself, although I like Obama, the older guy was definitely on his game, for his answers were more directive and concise.
GG
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What does looking "presidential" have to do with the war in Iraq, the sinking economy, the high gas and food prices? Looking Presidential doesn't bring in jobs, nor does it put food on the table.
Please, demonstrate how McCain's answers were more "directive and concise"? Firing off answers without thought isn't conciseness, it's called being adamant! It's called SUBTERFUGE. It's a tactic used when one hasn't a clue.
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By: Henrietta Williams on 8/19/2008 11:11AM
John Mccain told a story practically for every question was asked. All of this, in my opinion was for sympathy votes. All seem well rehearsed even with the tears.
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By: laura green on 8/19/2008 11:12AM
america has no need to worry.. biblically.. obama is our anwser.. mccain joined for spite.. nothing comes out of that... look at his face.... this is a message to the americas that think they dont make a difference.. if mccain gets back in.. we might as well "bend ova and kiss our behinds goodbye".. because he is not of God.. he wants to control.. not help.. AMERICA.. STAND UP FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS.. GET RID OF ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE IN OFFICE THAT THINKS THE CONSTITUTION WAS FOOLPROOF.. GET SOMEONE IN THERE THAT WILL WRITE IT OVER.. AND DECLARE EQUALITY...
MCCAIN IS NOT HIM.. HE IS NOT OF GOD
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By: GG on 8/19/2008 11:13AM
Wendy, Obama did well, but McCain did better on this one, IMO.
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By: WENDY on 8/19/2008 11:37AM
. Wendy, Obama did well, but McCain did better on this one, IMO.
GG
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Did McCain give answers with REASON? Or did he just state a story? When Warren asked McCain about raising taxes on the rich, he didn't give an answer. He claimed that he didn't want to tax anyone. Well, hardly a positive remark.
Someone has to pay! Notice, McCAin didn't "WANT" to tax, is not the same as not going to tax!
How did you feel about that answer, GG?
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By: WENDY on 8/19/2008 11:40AM
5. John Mccain told a story practically for every question was asked. All of this, in my opinion was for sympathy votes. All seem well rehearsed even with the tears.
Henrietta Williams
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You noticed that, too? It's called SUBTERFUGE. It's a tactic used when one hasn't a clue. It is specifically handy when one doesn't want to answer yes, or would rather conveal using the answer, no.
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By: Blacklace101 on 8/19/2008 11:40AM
I have one question... Why did Rev Warren if the need to defend this statement which he states was bogus. Andrea Mitchell didn't say it was a fact that John McCain was given the questions she said it appeared possible... To be honest I personally don't believe this Rev Warren because if it was so honest and why did he feel the need to defend it.
So much these representative of the Lord.
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