The morning after Barack Obama announced that he had selected Rick Warren to give the invocation at the inauguration, I found myself in an interesting argument between bites of sumptuous scrambled eggs. I sat down to breakfast and began ranting about how disappointed I was that a man who staunchly opposes gay marriage and compares it to incest, would be featured so prominently at such an historic "celebration." My mate reminded me that Obama ran (and won) on a platform of inclusion.
I snapped back that Warren, at least this aspect of Rick Warren's ideology, was the epitome of exclusion. I was then reminded that Rick Warren represents the beliefs of many, many Americans. And although many of those Americans would never, ever support Barack Obama, nor do they intend to make any effort to insure the success of his presidency, their views should be represented in an "inclusive" celebration.Now I had him, or so I thought. I pointed out that to me it was like inviting a segregationist to set the spiritual tone of an inauguration during the early 60's.
I was right I was told. That is exactly what it is like. And that distasteful way of thinking would have represented a large swath of American opinion at the time.
Hmmmpf.
And then he asked, "Would you rather someone like Warren be giving the invocation or sitting in a cabinet position setting policy?" The invocation of course, but still I am uneasy about it because I worry that elevation of Warren's views is a "go signal" to less thoughtful or violent homo-phobics who will do things like this.
So, for me at least, inclusion of exclusion really stings. But would "inclusion" mean anything really without that discomfort? And the fact is that Barack Obama has embraced openly gay members in his transition team, and has selected Dr. Joseph Lowery, a civil rights icon who supports same-sex marriage, to deliver the benediction.
I can only hope that this is how a nation begins to pull together.
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By: janice on 12/23/2008 3:40PM
People believe what they believe. Prayer is for everyone. I hope that you pray for and with people that you disagree with. His faith (my faith) says that this is wrong. It dosent make him a bad person because he truly believes in his faith.
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By: Jeremy on 12/23/2008 10:30PM
Can we have white spin, since you get black spin?
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By: Sandy on 12/24/2008 1:07AM
I would much prefer Warren not be included at all, but once again, I think if we look to Lincoln's Inaugural speech, we might find some answers.
"Maybe Obama is not so much giving Rick Warren a platform for his archaic and offensive beliefs, but rather delivering a statement that any continuation of the animosity of the culture wars is not going to emanate from this Administration. Let’s not forget the inclusion of Rev Lowery and Elizabeth Alexander. These are two of the most valiant voices against bigotry in all forms, and both can be quite provocative. As we look at this Inauguration Day, this “New Birth of Freedom”, perhaps it is important to look at the program in its totality. The religious right has been invited to join this “New Birth”, now it’s up to them whether they display a Christ-like love towards our gay brothers and sisters when President Obama extends equal protection to all."
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By: GodsBabyGirl on 12/24/2008 2:38AM
Pastor Rick Warren's beliefs aren't offensive. Pastor Warren is a Christian and lives his life according to the Word of God(The Bible) and the Bible strongly discourages any type of homosexual relationship. Trust me, like myself (also a Christian) Pastor Warren does not hate homosexuals. God teaches us that we are to hate the sin and not the sinner. We love them and we pray for them. So I'm sorry to those of you who are not Christians and don't understand what the Bible says, but Pastor Warren is just speaking and abiding by the Word of God. He is not a "segregationalist"...He's a Christian!
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By: Curt on 12/24/2008 3:53AM
Look, anytime anyone has a problem with a pastor whom bases his world-views based upon the Bible, then that person actually has a problem with the Author of Scripture. Pastors and as a matter of fact, Christian's whom base their view upon the Bible, are really no more then the messengers.
Jesus had said of Himself, "I am the way; the truth; and the life. No man comes to the Father, but by Me." There are many people in this world who disagree with this statement. As a matter of fact it offends many people, as it isn't very politically correct. The Lord Jesus was not all inclusive of every faith or every concept. For that He would be labled "intolerant" in this day and age.
Yet, this same Jesus came to rescue/save this world from the penalty of sin. He went to the cross for sinners; which are those whom transgress the will and law of God. But if we say to Him we have no sin, then we lie.
Remember, Jesus had said I am the "truth." Well, we all become quite uncomfortable when the Lord reveals our sins and won't accept them. Homosexuality is just one sin, among man, many others. Yet, there is just one sin that condemns us all...Refusing to repent of those sins and receiving Jesus as Savior.
So to become angry with Rick Warren, over his Biblical stands is to be angry with the "Author and Finisher" of his faith.
As for Mr. Obama's inviation to ask this pastor to petition God for a special blessing upon this nation and himself, is comendable. If anything, Mr. Obama is about to take upon himself a heavy task in very trying times. If ever a President needed the blessings and guidance of God, then it will be this one.
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By: truth b told on 12/24/2008 11:55AM
You've already got one. It's called FOX News.
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By: crzbluemoon on 12/24/2008 1:54PM
I am not a religious person, but I belive some of the same things as Rick Warren. Up until recently I never hear of Rick Warren and glad to see someone speak up with the same view I have on homosexuality. What really piss me off is homosexuals hijacking and comparing gay rights to civil rights. You can never convince the they are the same.
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By: edwardgilsonesq on 12/24/2008 2:00PM
I don't care for either of them. So much for inclusion. These two deserve each other.
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By: randydavis on 12/24/2008 5:42PM
PREIDENT ELECT, IF NOT REV J. WRIGHT WAS ALLOWED TO BE VOCAL ABOUT AMERICA'S ILL, WHY HAVE RICK WARREN WHO IS RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIA ( A NASTY REPUBLICAN AT THAT.) TO GIVE THE INVOCATION? YOU SEEM TO SPEAK FROM TWO SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH THAT IS NOT POLITCALLY-CORRECT AND AS THE SAYING GOES ' THERE IS DEVIL IN THE DETAILS' GAY PEOPLE WILL WATCH YOU CLOSELY, BECAUSE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT,IF YOU REALLY MEAN INCLUSION OF ALL PEOPLE (GAY AND STRAIGHT.)
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By: Dedee on 12/25/2008 1:35AM
I love reading this stuff about Obama and Warren. I warned the women in our community. I just hope he doesn't make a joke of our country. What was so wrong with Rev Wright then ...I missed the point I think It does no one any good for him to suck as a President. My screen saver is a photo of Obama smoking what appears to be a joint in Hawaii. Now that's about as real as he will ever get. I do wish you all well. God Bless us all.
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