Dr. Boyce: My Encounter with Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh

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Last week, I received a phone call from the producer for "The Jim Reith Show" here in Syracuse. I've been a frequent guest on Jim's show in the past. I appear on the show because I like Jim, even though I am not sure of his audience. Jim works on a conservative network, and his time slot is right between Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

I don't like Rush Limbaugh. I think he is, for the most part, a big mouth hypocrite. You have to get a kick out of the irony that Limbaugh once recommended that drug addicts go to prison and then found himself addicted to drugs. I also love the fact that Rush Limbaugh is a leader of the Republican party, since I really feel that this helps President Obama quite a bit. It's always good to have an out of touch leader with minimal intelligence and extreme ideology serving to further alienate the competing political party.

My encounters with Sean Hannity and Bill O'reilly, the other two pieces of the "Axis of Ignorance" have been explosive. O'reilly has consistently called for me to be fired by Syracuse University (some have suggested that it actually worked, black academic freedom doesn't quite pay the bills for many predominantly white universities). I told Hannity that he is helping to destroy America. I then proceeded to tell his staff that I am not interested in appearing on his show ever again.

So, when I got Jim's request to guest-host his radio show during his vacation week, I was taken aback. "Does your audience know who I am?" I asked the producer nicely. He said, "Yes Dr. Watkins. They actually like you."

"Wow," I thought to myself. "If this is possible,then maybe it's also possible that I might really end up dating Beyonce."

I reflected on my interactions with Jim on his show, and they've all been quite pleasant. What I found is that Jim Reith is not the kind of conservative who bashes you over the head for having a different point of view. He is the kind of person who does what we should all do: Listen to the other perspective and let others have a voice. In fact, that is one thing we both have in common, which is why we get along so well on the air.

I went into the show with some degree of trepidation, wondering if I would live to see the end of the show. I started the show by extending an olive branch to the audience. While informing them that I do not, for one second, back away from anything that I've ever said, my goal was to be both student and professor. I would listen and learn from them while sharing and teaching. I truly believe that is what America is supposed to be all about. Additionally, I made sure they were clear that I do not like Bill Oreilly, Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh. I explained that I spend my life fighting for black people. I even mentioned that I am not afraid to hold my employer, Syracuse University, accountable for it's participation in the NCAA's effort to exploit Black athletes and their families. I also stand up for black scholars and our rights to true academic freedom without the constraints of academic imperialism by the descendants of our historical oppressors.

Rather than having listeners show up on my doorstep with pitchforks and sharp weapons, I actually received tons of supportive calls. Without bragging, I must confess that I regularly heard the words, "This is the best show I've ever heard," which certainly served to temporarily inflate my ego. In all seriousness, it was my honor and a great experience to have the chance to interact with other Americans who have a different point of view. America should be a nation filled with productive dialogue, and it's my greatest hope that we can learn from one another and obtain a mutually respectful way of discussing race in America. Life is too short not to listen.

If you wish to listen to the audio from the first appearance, please click here.

To hear the audio from the second appearance, please click here.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a finance professor at Syracuse Unversity and author of the forthcoming book, 'Black American Money,' set to be released on July 15, 2009. To have Dr Boyce's commentary delivered directly to your e-mail, please click here.

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