Leave it to a master politician like President Barack Obama to make the kinds of substantial, well-reasoned points on a topic as complex as the nation's broken immigration policy that won't amount to a hill of beansin the final analysis.
In his addressyesterday at American University, the president struck the right balance between those who want to open the borders and provide amnesty for the 11 million undocumented residents here and those who want to begin mass deportations of all illegal residents wherever they are found.
Pleasing the open borders crew, Obama said that illegal immigrants are now so "intricately woven" in to the fabric of American life that even if deportations were possible, they would disrupt our economy.
And in a nod to anti-illegal immigration sympathizers, Obama said he has boosted border enforcement at the troubled southwest border to unprecedented levels in an effort to cut the flow of illegal residents from Mexico.
Obama said that the presence of 11-million undocumented immigrants in the United States "makes a mockery of all those who are going through the process of immigrating legally, adding that said illegal residents should admit they broke the law, register with the government, pay any fines and taxes and learn English.
"They must get right with the law before they can get in line and earn their citizenship," he said.
As usual, Obama struck the correct balance. But in the end what will it all mean? For several reasons, the answer to that question is nothing.
The reason most people come across the border is because they can get work that pays more than in their native land, but as long as businesses hire illegal residents because government policing of employees in most workplaces in so lax, the flow of job-seekers will continue.
If this government was serious about cutting the flow of illegal residentshere, it would increase job site enforcement so that only legal residents could get employment. But just think about the manpower that exercise would entail.
Also there is little incentivefor most members of Congress to take a stand and craft comprehensive immigration legislation. Its far easier to let the current system limp along and let some other lawmakers deal with it some day in the future - far in the future.
Obama said a lot in his immigration address. But in the end, I suspect, he will have said nothing because real immigration reform is nowhere on the horizon.
25-June-10 - Democratic Congressman Paul Kanjorski is getting heat from Republicans for making comments that sound like he doesn't respect black people.
25-June-10 - Democratic Congressman Paul Kanjorski is getting heat from Republicans for making comments that sound like he doesn't respect black people.
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21-June-10 - The children's grandmother and legal guardian, Katherine, recently had a sit-down with U.K. newspaper the Daily Mail and revealed some heart-tugging facts about how her grands (Prince, 13; Paris, 12; and Blanket, 8) still grieve the loss of their famous dad.
18-June-10 - Angela Lowe, the widow of R&B singer Sean Levert, who died suspiciously six days after being jailed back in March 2008, has settled her lawsuit against Cuyahoga County in Ohio and the umbrella company that oversees medical care at the jail.
16-June-10 - I know I'm supposed to be all outraged about the Seattle cop punching the teen in her face because I'm black and stuff like that, HOWEVER, I don't know whether it's because I'm a jaded '80s baby tired of young people's lack of respect for authority or I'm just insensitive, but I think the girls in this video absolutely deserve what they got.
15-June-10 - Jarretta Hamilton is angry and unemployed. The 39-year-old teacher was fired last April because she had sex before marriage and wound up pregnant. Now she has broken her silence and has gone public.
12-June-10 - I am not quite sure what to make of the ruffled YouTube video that is now scouring the web out of Paterson, New Jersey, where an officer inexplicably grabs a man, turns him around and puts pepper spray in to his eyes twice.
11-June-10 - Indianapolis Police Chief Paul Ciesielski called for the firing of a white officer who's been charged with repeatedly striking a 15-year-old biracial boy in the face during an arrest. The attacks allegedly occurred after the boy had been subdued by other officers.
09-June-10 - Gary Coleman's ex-wife, Shannon Price, is up to her post-hubby's-death antics again. As if masterminding the sale of Coleman's pre- and- post-death photos wasn't enough, now the merry widow has managed to get in to Coleman's home and take practically everything that wasn't bolted down! Click Here for the Complete Story
09-June-10 - Todd Bridges, who co-starred with Gary Coleman on the popular sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes,"is livid about both Globe Magazine's and Shannon Price's involvement in Coleman's death photos.
We must keep the illegal immigrants out. Obama does not have a clue as to how to do his job. No experience and no skin in the game here in America. A poor choice has been made.
Everybody thinks that this new law is just for the Hispanicas. This law is for EVERYBODY that is in this country illegally. Most of the immigrants have citizenship and this does not apply to them. This law is for the masses of illegal people that have come here to America and are using our system and committing crimes agqainst our laws and treating our laws as though they are not to be respected. Let me make it clear to you: Americans cannot go to any other country ever and just immigrate without following the proper procedures to become a citizen. Why is it wrong for us to ask immigrants to do the same thing in our home land? My son was born in Germany while we were stationed there and he was born in a German hospital but his birth certificate says, "American born abroad". He was not allowed to become a citizen just because we were living in their country. My family and I spent nine years there and we could never go anywhere without our passports...period! America is no different! If you are here in this country and you do not have the proper papers to be here then you need to do it the legal way or get back to your country. The law is the law and why is it that everytime that the government wants a group of people to do things the right way, some Americans try to negate it even though they know that the law is for the betterment of America. What happens if we let everybody that wants to leave their country because they do not want to live their own real lifestyle run here to America? Can we as Americans just hide out in Europe, Canada, Mexico, Australia and not be a legal citizen in those countries? I don't think so! This is the right thing to do and if you do not agree then maybe you too are an illegal immigrant here and may need to find yourself a new place to call home. I agree with the President and the law 1000 percent!! Get legal or get gone!!
Unlike the President Obama's/the Obama Administration's Mission to Kill AB 1070 and/or mission to refrain from enforcing Federal Immigration Law, and/or mission to betray law abiding U.S. citizens, the U.S. born Black community being inclusive, and legal immigrants...
.......President Felipe Calderon, the Calderon Administration Enforces its' Immigration Laws, supports Mexican citizens first and foremost, and/or support Hispanic illegal undocument Hispanic immigrants who enter the U.S. illegally, etc., etc.
**************************** MEXICO VS. UNITED STATES: MEXICAN IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE TOUGHER
by FactReal on May 8, 2010
Mexico has stricter immigration laws than the United States of America.
Here is a summary of two excellent 2006 research papers exposing how Mexico discriminates illegal and legal immigrants.
UNDER MEXICO’S IMMIGRATION LAW (GENERAL LAW ON POPULATION):
• Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
- Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)
- Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)
- Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)
- The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38) • Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
- Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
- A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
- A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91). • Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:
- Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
- Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116) • Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
- Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
- Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
- Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned. • Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,
- “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)
- Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
- Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126) • Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:
- A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
- Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132) UNDER MEXICO’S CONSTITUTION :
• The Mexican constitution expressly forbids non-citizens to participate in the country’s political life. Non-citizens are forbidden to participate in demonstrations or express opinions in public about domestic politics. Article 9 states, “only citizens of the Republic may do so to take part in the political affairs of the country.” Article 33 is unambiguous: “Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.” • The Mexican constitution denies fundamental property rights to foreigners. If foreigners wish to have certain property rights, they must renounce the protection of their own governments or risk confiscation. Foreigners are forbidden to own land in Mexico within 100 kilometers of land borders or within 50 kilometers of the coast. Article 27 states, “Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters. The State may grant the same right to foreigners, provided they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Relations to consider themselves as nationals in respect to such property, and bind themselves not to invoke the protection of their governments in matters relating thereto; under penalty, in case of noncompliance with this agreement, of forfeiture of the property acquired to the Nation. Under no circumstances may foreigners acquire direct ownership of lands or waters within a zone of one hundred kilometers along the frontiers and of fifty kilometers along the shores of the country.” (Emphasis added)
• The Mexican constitution denies equal employment rights to immigrants, even legal ones, in the public sector. “Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable. In time of peace no foreigner can serve in the Army nor in the police or public security forces.” (Article 32) • The Mexican constitution guarantees that immigrants will never be treated as real Mexican citizens, even if they are legally naturalized. Article 32 bans foreigners, immigrants, and even naturalized citizens of Mexico from serving as military officers, Mexican-flagged ship and airline crew, and chiefs of seaports and airports: “In order to belong to the National Navy or the Air Force, and to discharge any office or commission, it is required to be a Mexican by birth. This same status is indispensable for captains, pilots, masters, engineers, mechanics, and in general, for all personnel of the crew of any vessel or airship protected by the Mexican merchant flag or insignia. It is also necessary to be Mexican by birth to discharge the position of captain of the port and all services of practique and airport commandant, as well as all functions of customs agent in the Republic.” • An immigrant who becomes a naturalized Mexican citizen can be stripped of his Mexican citizenship if he lives again in the country of his origin for more than five years, under Article 37. Mexican-born citizens risk no such loss. • Foreign-born, naturalized Mexican citizens may not become federal lawmakers (Article 55), cabinet secretaries (Article 91) or supreme court justices (Article 95). • The president of Mexico must be a Mexican citizen by birth AND his parents must also be Mexican-born citizens (Article 82), thus giving secondary status to Mexican-born citizens born of immigrants. • The Mexican constitution singles out “undesirable aliens.” Article 11 guarantees federal protection against “undesirable aliens resident in the country.” • The Mexican constitution provides the right of private individuals to make citizen’s arrests. Article 16 states, “in cases of flagrante delicto, any person may arrest the offender and his accomplices, turning them over without delay to the nearest authorities.” Therefore, the Mexican constitution appears to grant Mexican citizens the right to arrest illegal aliens and hand them over to police for prosecution. • The Mexican constitution states that foreigners may be expelled for any reason and without due process. According to Article 33, “the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action.”
No no1sname how about this take your butt back to your home land than no real american will be mad or have anything to talk about, you law breaker read this in full you illegal dumb ass.
Who cares we don't want them here, somebody will work those jobs, america won't hurt with out them concidering there are no jobs at all, immigrants just add to the mounting dept and are not the captain save a day as you portray them to be.
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By: Bengals Baby on 7/06/2010 5:11PM
Remember the golden rule! Humans build, sreggiN destroy. GNOMESAYIN?
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By: Judy on 7/06/2010 1:43AM
We must keep the illegal immigrants out. Obama does not have a clue as to how to do his job. No experience and no skin in the game here in America. A poor choice has been made.
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By: Princess on 7/06/2010 3:17PM
Everybody thinks that this new law is just for the Hispanicas. This law is for EVERYBODY that is in this country illegally. Most of the immigrants have citizenship and this does not apply to them. This law is for the masses of illegal people that have come here to America and are using our system and committing crimes agqainst our laws and treating our laws as though they are not to be respected. Let me make it clear to you: Americans cannot go to any other country ever and just immigrate without following the proper procedures to become a citizen. Why is it wrong for us to ask immigrants to do the same thing in our home land? My son was born in Germany while we were stationed there and he was born in a German hospital but his birth certificate says, "American born abroad". He was not allowed to become a citizen just because we were living in their country. My family and I spent nine years there and we could never go anywhere without our passports...period! America is no different! If you are here in this country and you do not have the proper papers to be here then you need to do it the legal way or get back to your country. The law is the law and why is it that everytime that the government wants a group of people to do things the right way, some Americans try to negate it even though they know that the law is for the betterment of America. What happens if we let everybody that wants to leave their country because they do not want to live their own real lifestyle run here to America? Can we as Americans just hide out in Europe, Canada, Mexico, Australia and not be a legal citizen in those countries? I don't think so! This is the right thing to do and if you do not agree then maybe you too are an illegal immigrant here and may need to find yourself a new place to call home. I agree with the President and the law 1000 percent!! Get legal or get gone!!
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By: Michael Lofton on 7/06/2010 6:58PM
http://www.africanamericanconservatives.com/forum/topics/unlike-the-president-obamasthe
Unlike the President Obama's/the Obama Administration's Mission to Kill AB 1070 and/or mission to refrain from enforcing Federal Immigration Law, and/or mission to betray law abiding U.S. citizens, the U.S. born Black community being inclusive, and legal immigrants...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FS4IJIHleQ
The Hypocrisy of Mexican Immigration
http://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/mexico-vs-united-states-mexican-immigration-laws-are-tougher/
.......President Felipe Calderon, the Calderon Administration Enforces its' Immigration Laws, supports Mexican citizens first and foremost, and/or support Hispanic illegal undocument Hispanic immigrants who enter the U.S. illegally, etc., etc.
****************************
MEXICO VS. UNITED STATES: MEXICAN IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE TOUGHER
by FactReal on May 8, 2010
Mexico has stricter immigration laws than the United States of America.
Here is a summary of two excellent 2006 research papers exposing how Mexico discriminates illegal and legal immigrants.
UNDER MEXICO’S IMMIGRATION LAW (GENERAL LAW ON POPULATION):
• Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
- Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)
- Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)
- Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)
- The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)
• Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
- Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
- A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
- A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).
• Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:
- Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
- Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
• Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
- Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
- Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
- Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.
• Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,
- “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)
- Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
- Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)
• Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:
- A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
- Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)
UNDER MEXICO’S CONSTITUTION :
• The Mexican constitution expressly forbids non-citizens to participate in the country’s political life.
Non-citizens are forbidden to participate in demonstrations or express opinions in public about domestic politics. Article 9 states, “only citizens of the Republic may do so to take part in the political affairs of the country.” Article 33 is unambiguous: “Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.”
• The Mexican constitution denies fundamental property rights to foreigners.
If foreigners wish to have certain property rights, they must renounce the protection of their own governments or risk confiscation. Foreigners are forbidden to own land in Mexico within 100 kilometers of land borders or within 50 kilometers of the coast.
Article 27 states, “Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters. The State may grant the same right to foreigners, provided they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Relations to consider themselves as nationals in respect to such property, and bind themselves not to invoke the protection of their governments in matters relating thereto; under penalty, in case of noncompliance with this agreement, of forfeiture of the property acquired to the Nation. Under no circumstances may foreigners acquire direct ownership of lands or waters within a zone of one hundred kilometers along the frontiers and of fifty kilometers along the shores of the country.” (Emphasis added)
• The Mexican constitution denies equal employment rights to immigrants, even legal
ones, in the public sector.
“Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable. In time of peace no foreigner can serve in the Army nor in the police or public security forces.” (Article 32)
• The Mexican constitution guarantees that immigrants will never be treated as real Mexican citizens, even if they are legally naturalized.
Article 32 bans foreigners, immigrants, and even naturalized citizens of Mexico from serving as military officers, Mexican-flagged ship and airline crew, and chiefs of seaports and airports:
“In order to belong to the National Navy or the Air Force, and to discharge any office or commission, it is required to be a Mexican by birth. This same status is indispensable for captains, pilots, masters, engineers, mechanics, and in general, for all personnel of the crew of any vessel or airship protected by the Mexican merchant flag or insignia. It is also necessary to be Mexican by birth to discharge the position of captain of the port and all services of practique and airport commandant, as well as all functions of customs agent in the Republic.”
• An immigrant who becomes a naturalized Mexican citizen can be stripped of his Mexican citizenship if he lives again in the country of his origin for more than five years, under Article 37. Mexican-born citizens risk no such loss.
• Foreign-born, naturalized Mexican citizens may not become federal lawmakers (Article 55), cabinet secretaries (Article 91) or supreme court justices (Article 95).
• The president of Mexico must be a Mexican citizen by birth AND his parents must also be Mexican-born citizens (Article 82), thus giving secondary status to Mexican-born citizens born of immigrants.
• The Mexican constitution singles out “undesirable aliens.” Article 11 guarantees federal protection against “undesirable aliens resident in the country.”
• The Mexican constitution provides the right of private individuals to make citizen’s arrests.
Article 16 states, “in cases of flagrante delicto, any person may arrest the offender and his accomplices, turning them over without delay to the nearest authorities.” Therefore, the Mexican constitution appears to grant Mexican citizens the right to arrest illegal aliens and hand them over to police for prosecution.
• The Mexican constitution states that foreigners may be expelled for any reason and without due process.
According to Article 33, “the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action.”
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By: kchi on 7/09/2010 6:27PM
No no1sname how about this take your butt back to your home land than no real american will be mad or have anything to talk about, you law breaker read this in full you illegal dumb ass.
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By: soundoff on 7/09/2010 6:45PM
Ok! Your point.
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By: soundoff on 7/25/2010 3:40PM
Who cares we don't want them here, somebody will work those jobs, america won't hurt with out them concidering there are no jobs at all, immigrants just add to the mounting dept and are not the captain save a day as you portray them to be.
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